The City of Maltby
This Blog is intended to inform the community of Maltby about incorporation efforts. Please feel free to post your comments or questions, we'll do our best to answer them.
Wednesday, November 01, 2006
Monday, October 09, 2006
Meeting with Dave Somers
The leaders of Maltby Inc will be meeting with Dave Somers next week to discuss our hopes of incorporating our city.
We'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Thanks for your support.
We'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Thanks for your support.
Informational meeting!
We have an informational meeting scheduled for Thursday November 2nd at 7pm at the Maltby Community Center.
By then we should have actual tax revenue figures for the proposed city, as well as an official estimate for a city budget. We know that's the big question everyone is wondering, is "Can the city be funded from current tax revenue or will taxes need to be raised?"
We'll also have alot more detailed information and a everyone can have a chance to ask questions. We hope to have Dave Sommers there also.
So if you're already in favor, or unsure, join us to learn more and please mark the date on your calendar and tell your neighbors. We hope it will be very informative for everyone.
By then we should have actual tax revenue figures for the proposed city, as well as an official estimate for a city budget. We know that's the big question everyone is wondering, is "Can the city be funded from current tax revenue or will taxes need to be raised?"
We'll also have alot more detailed information and a everyone can have a chance to ask questions. We hope to have Dave Sommers there also.
So if you're already in favor, or unsure, join us to learn more and please mark the date on your calendar and tell your neighbors. We hope it will be very informative for everyone.
Saturday, October 07, 2006
City Budget
As you can see from the budget's of Snohomish and Monroe that their largest expense is the police department.
Snohomish city budget- 14.9 mil (police 3.6 mil) or 24%
Monroe city budget - 11.4 mil (police 4.8 mil) or 42%
In 2003 for the larger version of the proposed city of Maltby, the Sheriff's dept. estimated cost to provide contract police service to the proposed area of about 42 square miles was 1.6 million per year.
This year's proposed city area is about half that size which is likely to reduce the cost of contract police service. If we projected a city budget based on the Snohomish percentage of 24% for police, we'd end up with about 6.5 milllion. Just playing with the numbers.
The official estimate is likely to be somewhere between 6.5-12 million.
Snohomish city budget- 14.9 mil (police 3.6 mil) or 24%
Monroe city budget - 11.4 mil (police 4.8 mil) or 42%
In 2003 for the larger version of the proposed city of Maltby, the Sheriff's dept. estimated cost to provide contract police service to the proposed area of about 42 square miles was 1.6 million per year.
This year's proposed city area is about half that size which is likely to reduce the cost of contract police service. If we projected a city budget based on the Snohomish percentage of 24% for police, we'd end up with about 6.5 milllion. Just playing with the numbers.
The official estimate is likely to be somewhere between 6.5-12 million.
Friday, October 06, 2006
Officially....MaltbyInc
Leaders of what was known as MCC met last night and we agreed to rename ourselves MaltbyInc as we have now moved to begin a major incorporation effort.
Several leaders, including Greg Stephens will be calling on Dave Somers next week to set up a meeting to inform him of our community organization and desire to incorporate.
This is a VERY critical meeting, in that this month is when PDS determines whether or not to allow our incorporation plan to be heard on the 2007 docket. It will take a call from Dave Somers to have them keep it on the docket. Also, we need to convince Dave of our seriousness so he can have actual tax revenue numbers put together that we can present at our informational meeting in a few weeks.
We need to appear organized and determined for Dave and PDS to take us seriously.
We need your help! Please email Dave Somers at Dave.Somers@co.Snohomish.wa.us and tell him that "As part of MaltbyInc, I'm in favor of incorporation and would appreciate it if you'd meet with our delegation." Or something to that effect. He needs to see that there's more than just a handful of people behind this.
By the way there will also be a proposal on the docket by a big developer to push the UGA boundary to Broadway. The crazy developing that's going on East of Mill Creek and Bothell will be right smack in the middle of Maltby, if we don't do anything.
We really need to act now before it's too late. Please spread the word to all your neighbors and have them contact Dave as well. Thanks!
Several leaders, including Greg Stephens will be calling on Dave Somers next week to set up a meeting to inform him of our community organization and desire to incorporate.
This is a VERY critical meeting, in that this month is when PDS determines whether or not to allow our incorporation plan to be heard on the 2007 docket. It will take a call from Dave Somers to have them keep it on the docket. Also, we need to convince Dave of our seriousness so he can have actual tax revenue numbers put together that we can present at our informational meeting in a few weeks.
We need to appear organized and determined for Dave and PDS to take us seriously.
We need your help! Please email Dave Somers at Dave.Somers@co.Snohomish.wa.us and tell him that "As part of MaltbyInc, I'm in favor of incorporation and would appreciate it if you'd meet with our delegation." Or something to that effect. He needs to see that there's more than just a handful of people behind this.
By the way there will also be a proposal on the docket by a big developer to push the UGA boundary to Broadway. The crazy developing that's going on East of Mill Creek and Bothell will be right smack in the middle of Maltby, if we don't do anything.
We really need to act now before it's too late. Please spread the word to all your neighbors and have them contact Dave as well. Thanks!
Thursday, October 05, 2006
From Greg Stephen's ...
Spoke with the finance directors of Snohomish and Monroe. We expect that as neighboring jurisdictions, near our estimated population size, they would provide some ballpark numbers for comparison.
* Snohomish has approximately 10,000 pop. with a general fund budget of 14.9 million, and the largest expenses being police (3.6 million) and public works (1.3 million) .
* Monroe has approximately 16,000 pop. with a general fund budget of 11.4 million, with police (4.8 million) as their largest expense.
Both directors were very helpful, wished us success, and offered to share their spreadsheets with me when I come to see them in person. City revenues come from many sources, that include state and federal revenue sharing, grants,court fines and judgements,real estate excise taxes, document fees, building permit fees, event permit fees, business licenses,utility revenues,road fees, development mitigation fees,almost ad infinitum- not just property and sales tax.
Remember that property tax alone can never support services. The difference is made up by the sales tax revenues collected. Maltby has Costco (2+ million sales tax) and Flower World (??? sales tax), both of which are larger than any single business in either Snohomish or Monroe right now. City of Maltby has currently the Maltby UGA (industrial and commercial zone) of 960 acres, and the Clearview Commercial zone of 200 acres, and the Cathcart Landfill Property (county owned and zoned commercial, industrial, or any use) of 200+ acres that will be made available for sale in 2007. That makes over 2 square miles of commercial and industrial sales tax revenue generators. This is a larger revenue base area than either of the other two cities have, and one that we can continue to enhance as it is not even built out yet. I am lobbying for a business park and/or nano- technology research park at the Cathcart site (more jobs,revenue), instead of more residential subdivisions as the large builders want.
Snohomish County has all the revenue figures for our proposed city area as they currently collect those taxes. I will seek that info from them, but they are reluctant to generate the figures as it takes staff time. It will take a directive from our councilman, Dave Somers, to get it. He will have to see a request from an actual incorporation organization, not just me by myself again, to justify that staff time expenditure. Then we can quote real numbers to our citizens' questions, not ballpark estimates.
I would at present use a more updated estimate of 12 million for our own early budget numbers(the previous estimates are now 3 years old), until info comes in from the county staff research. I would expect that since we would for initial start-up years do contract-for-services, that our staffing and capital expenditures would be less than long established self service provider cities with decaying infrastructure needs such as our two neighbors.
Our sewer, water, power, and roads will all be new for the most part, and expansions paid for by the new growth in businesses and planned residential development .We could allow that in appropriate areas; not what we get stuck with after runaway county permitted sprawl and leapfrog development generated needs for supporting infrastructure and services. These numbers we estimate now are based on current conditions. After a 2 year incorporation process things may end up higher according to inflation, wage contacts, materials costs. We will need to factor in some latitude for our numbers so that folks will not feel misled by costs at time of actual state certification to begin city operation.
Just dream for one moment about what we'll look like if the other competing 2007 docket proposal to extend the SouthWest UGA boundary eastward to Broadway is granted ???
And don't forget, we'll have a brand new wastewater treatment facility on Hwy.9 coming on-line in just over 3 years to provide sewer capacity. The county will make sure that there are plenty of new customers (subdivisions) to use it. Maybe we should be who decides where, and how many the new hook-ups will be. But you may rest assured that the new plant will be used, it will not sit idle and just rust away- out of sight, out of mind.
That capacity will enable thousands of new building permits to be issued; and the county sees that as strengthening the economy.More jobs for the construction industry( our county's largest employer and campaign finance contributor), and building permit revenue to county coffers.
As for GMA......
GMA currently specifies a minimum of 4 dwelling units per acre within an urban growth area,such as a city, as a way to accomodate population gain estimates for the next 20 years(Sno. County est. 300,000 countywide increase). The City of Bainbridge Island (Winslow) annexed the entire island, after a vote of the people, as a way to control their own zoning( and thus their density and growth), just as we want to. We can partner with them to get our state legislative representatives(as they are doing) to sponsor wording amendment to the GMA to permit mixed density as a more appropriate method to accomodate population growth, than by mandating only more acres of mowed down and paved-over forest. By state law, only the state,county, or city may make zoning.
Mixed density would allow areas of low density(as most of our area is currently), in exchange for other areas of more dense(apartments, detached condos, cottage style housing, and duplex/4-plex) development to take the target population increase above what 4 dwellings/acre would yield in single family houses. I have already broached this proposal to several of our local elected state legislature members. They have indicated a willingness to talk if there is sufficient community support to proceed. Read that as... an actual organization stepping up to request it, preferably with other partners(eg.Bainbridge,Sudden Valley-Whatcom) to lend weight.
Other areas of the country(eg.West Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.) nearby to large, growing(sprawling) metropolitan nightmares are doing exactly as we propose to do; take local control over our own future to retain our community identity and character(and tax revenues).Not coincidentally, local control is also the only way to control local tax rates. But you get the picture.
* Snohomish has approximately 10,000 pop. with a general fund budget of 14.9 million, and the largest expenses being police (3.6 million) and public works (1.3 million) .
* Monroe has approximately 16,000 pop. with a general fund budget of 11.4 million, with police (4.8 million) as their largest expense.
Both directors were very helpful, wished us success, and offered to share their spreadsheets with me when I come to see them in person. City revenues come from many sources, that include state and federal revenue sharing, grants,court fines and judgements,real estate excise taxes, document fees, building permit fees, event permit fees, business licenses,utility revenues,road fees, development mitigation fees,almost ad infinitum- not just property and sales tax.
Remember that property tax alone can never support services. The difference is made up by the sales tax revenues collected. Maltby has Costco (2+ million sales tax) and Flower World (??? sales tax), both of which are larger than any single business in either Snohomish or Monroe right now. City of Maltby has currently the Maltby UGA (industrial and commercial zone) of 960 acres, and the Clearview Commercial zone of 200 acres, and the Cathcart Landfill Property (county owned and zoned commercial, industrial, or any use) of 200+ acres that will be made available for sale in 2007. That makes over 2 square miles of commercial and industrial sales tax revenue generators. This is a larger revenue base area than either of the other two cities have, and one that we can continue to enhance as it is not even built out yet. I am lobbying for a business park and/or nano- technology research park at the Cathcart site (more jobs,revenue), instead of more residential subdivisions as the large builders want.
Snohomish County has all the revenue figures for our proposed city area as they currently collect those taxes. I will seek that info from them, but they are reluctant to generate the figures as it takes staff time. It will take a directive from our councilman, Dave Somers, to get it. He will have to see a request from an actual incorporation organization, not just me by myself again, to justify that staff time expenditure. Then we can quote real numbers to our citizens' questions, not ballpark estimates.
I would at present use a more updated estimate of 12 million for our own early budget numbers(the previous estimates are now 3 years old), until info comes in from the county staff research. I would expect that since we would for initial start-up years do contract-for-services, that our staffing and capital expenditures would be less than long established self service provider cities with decaying infrastructure needs such as our two neighbors.
Our sewer, water, power, and roads will all be new for the most part, and expansions paid for by the new growth in businesses and planned residential development .We could allow that in appropriate areas; not what we get stuck with after runaway county permitted sprawl and leapfrog development generated needs for supporting infrastructure and services. These numbers we estimate now are based on current conditions. After a 2 year incorporation process things may end up higher according to inflation, wage contacts, materials costs. We will need to factor in some latitude for our numbers so that folks will not feel misled by costs at time of actual state certification to begin city operation.
Just dream for one moment about what we'll look like if the other competing 2007 docket proposal to extend the SouthWest UGA boundary eastward to Broadway is granted ???
And don't forget, we'll have a brand new wastewater treatment facility on Hwy.9 coming on-line in just over 3 years to provide sewer capacity. The county will make sure that there are plenty of new customers (subdivisions) to use it. Maybe we should be who decides where, and how many the new hook-ups will be. But you may rest assured that the new plant will be used, it will not sit idle and just rust away- out of sight, out of mind.
That capacity will enable thousands of new building permits to be issued; and the county sees that as strengthening the economy.More jobs for the construction industry( our county's largest employer and campaign finance contributor), and building permit revenue to county coffers.
As for GMA......
GMA currently specifies a minimum of 4 dwelling units per acre within an urban growth area,such as a city, as a way to accomodate population gain estimates for the next 20 years(Sno. County est. 300,000 countywide increase). The City of Bainbridge Island (Winslow) annexed the entire island, after a vote of the people, as a way to control their own zoning( and thus their density and growth), just as we want to. We can partner with them to get our state legislative representatives(as they are doing) to sponsor wording amendment to the GMA to permit mixed density as a more appropriate method to accomodate population growth, than by mandating only more acres of mowed down and paved-over forest. By state law, only the state,county, or city may make zoning.
Mixed density would allow areas of low density(as most of our area is currently), in exchange for other areas of more dense(apartments, detached condos, cottage style housing, and duplex/4-plex) development to take the target population increase above what 4 dwellings/acre would yield in single family houses. I have already broached this proposal to several of our local elected state legislature members. They have indicated a willingness to talk if there is sufficient community support to proceed. Read that as... an actual organization stepping up to request it, preferably with other partners(eg.Bainbridge,Sudden Valley-Whatcom) to lend weight.
Other areas of the country(eg.West Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.) nearby to large, growing(sprawling) metropolitan nightmares are doing exactly as we propose to do; take local control over our own future to retain our community identity and character(and tax revenues).Not coincidentally, local control is also the only way to control local tax rates. But you get the picture.
Wednesday, October 04, 2006
It's all about having a say in our future
There's an interesting story in the Herald about Mukilteo wanting to annex an area near Paine Field.
You'll notice that the mayor's point is that they want a say in how it is developed.
That's exactly what were after here. Without the power of a city government the county will continue to allow radio towers, motocross, housing developments in sensitive water table areas, etc. With no city, we would be fighting these types of things more and more and it will be harder and harder to stop them.
Notice how they don't try to build these things inside a city's limits, because they know that no city would even consider allowing them.
Those of us who have engaged in fighting the county to stop these developments, know how unpleasant it is and don't want to be having to go through this every year. If your neighborhood hasn't been threatened yet, just wait.
You'll notice that the mayor's point is that they want a say in how it is developed.
That's exactly what were after here. Without the power of a city government the county will continue to allow radio towers, motocross, housing developments in sensitive water table areas, etc. With no city, we would be fighting these types of things more and more and it will be harder and harder to stop them.
Notice how they don't try to build these things inside a city's limits, because they know that no city would even consider allowing them.
Those of us who have engaged in fighting the county to stop these developments, know how unpleasant it is and don't want to be having to go through this every year. If your neighborhood hasn't been threatened yet, just wait.
